“Thuli, I remember the one occasion that you investigated me very, very clearly. That was interesting indeed. It was a tough period but it was absolutely appropriate.”
Cape Town, South Africa – Thuli Madonsela is a South African advocate and Professor of law, holding a chair in social justice at Stellenbosch University since January 2018. She served as the Public Protector of South Africa from 19 October 2009 to 14 October 2016.
In 1996, she helped draft the final constitution of South Africa promulgated by then-President Nelson Mandela, and on the 8th of October 2019, she joined Helen Zille for tea!
Helen Zille, the former mayor of Cape Town and the former Premier of the Western Cape, embarked on a new journey in August 2019 with the launch of her podcast and Youtube channel, Tea With Helen, where she interviews journalists, academics, politicians and public figures about South Africa and the state of our nation.
“I’m Helen Zille, you may know me as the former mayor of Cape Town and the former Premier of the Western Cape… or a twitter troll. I have been a journalist, political activist, entrepreneur, politician, author, senior policy fellow and most lately uMkhulu.
But enough with the past – we are here to talk about the present and the future.
Tea With Helen is my new foray into political and social debate. I will be talking to journalists, academics, politicians and other shakers and movers about the big ideas and issues of our time, both locally and globally. Let’s get out of the Twitter gutter and have some truth-seeking conversations.”
Watch the full interview below:


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